How the Pacers ruined a championship contender with tiny moves and one big injury

6 dec 2020
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This is a different kind of Collapse. The Pacers didn't fall from best record in the NBA to the league's basement. They did fall, though, and while their decline wasn't so deep, it was particularly weird.
A lot of people remember Paul George's broken leg, and that played a big part in a great team's demise. The Pacers, though, showed signs of fracturing long before George's injury. (That was an unintentional pun, but we're just gonna leave it.) Seemingly minor moves by team president Larry Bird -- a little trade here, a little signing there -- rattled the team's stars, and perhaps contributed to measurable drops in production.
Bad vibes led to public grouchiness, which led to some surprising departures, which led a team that was already teetering before George's broken leg to capsize for real.
The Pacers' fall from elite to ordinary looks simple from afar, but it includes some strange details you might not remember.
Directed by Ryan Simmons
Motion graphics by Michael Das
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
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  • Larry Bird was president of basketball operations, but there was another individual at the general manager position as well. Bird took a fairly lengthy leave of absence during the twilight of the "blue collar gold swagger" days. I never knew how much of the shenanigans were Bird's fault (he drafted both some really great and not so great players) or Kevin Pritchard's. Either way, the front office has been a fan's nightmare for years now.

    Prohibition JonesProhibition JonesDag sedan
  • Let’s not forget PG turning Hibbert into a brick by banging Hib’s girl.

    CarefreebluesCarefreebluesDag sedan
  • Indiana to me has been very consistent making the playoffs the last 30 years, just playing in the wrong eras and the big brawl is what made them title-less.

    Daniel M.Daniel M.6 dagar sedan
  • I love my team but we never winning a chip

    N A SN A S8 dagar sedan
  • Is there any truth that Blake Griffin was almost a Pacer until they backed out at the last minute which lead to Paul George to asking for a trade?

    Eric MadisonEric Madison9 dagar sedan
  • bird the reason 😭

    Francisco EncinasFrancisco Encinas11 dagar sedan
  • good video, but i will not stand for any pero antic slander

    Kevlim256Kevlim25614 dagar sedan
  • I remember rooting for the 2012 Thunder and the 2014 Pacers to win and both lost to Lebron smh

    Dominique BrownDominique Brown14 dagar sedan
  • The Pacers were never a serious championship contender. They would’ve gotten stomped on if they somehow made it to the finals.

    Wilson HatterWilson Hatter15 dagar sedan
  • Danny Granger was one of my favorite players; its a shame he kept getting hurt. he was a Stud. Monta Ellis was never a winner but he was a dog, also one of my favorite players

    Matthew EsoMatthew Eso15 dagar sedan
  • Even Doe It’s Gone Hurt Like Hell They Need To Do Bulls Collapse💯 Before & After Rose Tore His ACL

    F.O.E FAMILYFIVEF.O.E FAMILYFIVE17 dagar sedan
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    Lovett LoisLovett Lois17 dagar sedan
  • why has no one commented on myles turner's shirt at 10:08 💀

    ayylmao18ayylmao1817 dagar sedan
  • Its about damn near repaired now my guy, one more piece and the Pacers are championship winners

    ColonelSkinfluteColonelSkinflute20 dagar sedan
  • That team went to 7 games in 2014 with my 8 seed hawks I knew they wasn’t gone beat the heat but boy was they fun to watch

    Ynrn KingYnrn King20 dagar sedan
  • This is bias cuz I’m a Heat fan, but the Heat had their number🤷🏽‍♂️

    Kyle JenkinsKyle Jenkins21 dag sedan
    • when they were at their peak

      Kyle JenkinsKyle Jenkins21 dag sedan
  • As a die hard Pacers fan this hurts my soul.

    Kam CripeKam Cripe21 dag sedan
  • 10:05 2105?

    HaykHayk24 dagar sedan
  • But now the pacers are nice

    Lil ChubzLil Chubz24 dagar sedan
  • Ram's Jared Goff era Collapse Next Episode Pz

    Garrett AlcarezGarrett Alcarez25 dagar sedan
  • So bird kept messing up

    AozotraAozotra25 dagar sedan
  • Chemistry is almost as important as star talent.

    Evan PavonEvan Pavon25 dagar sedan
  • I mean pg wasn’t In his prime yet going against 3 superstars on the heat

    Freelild**kbigheartFreelild**kbigheart27 dagar sedan
  • Hibbert fell of after a rule change about less contact while attempting to block a player. He always made blocks at the limit and these where later fouls. That's the excuse for his defense falling of, which was a big part of his game. There is still no excuse for him not rebounding or scoring.

    Cedric AsdfghjklCedric Asdfghjkl29 dagar sedan
  • WE NEED A COLLAPSE ON THE DETROIT TIGERS!!!!!Pleeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

    Justin MixJustin Mix29 dagar sedan
  • Larry Bird was such a bad GM/president

    faiz Alifaiz AliMånad sedan
  • P A I N 😔

    Brian HinesBrian HinesMånad sedan
  • Collapse idea: New England Patriots

    Un-Professional DuckUn-Professional DuckMånad sedan
  • Blue Collar Gold Swagger!

    Chewey IdolChewey IdolMånad sedan
  • bird and jordan maybe greatest of all time but they are two dumb executives.

    sparse insanitysparse insanityMånad sedan
  • 8:38-Thank you! That is the grosses thing ive seen. Next to Sid in WCW and that dude at UK!

    HereIsWisdom 1318HereIsWisdom 1318Månad sedan
  • Pacers were so close; they really should have kept that team together, and tried to add 1 GOOD piece! I know this seems like Monday Morning QBing, but they were scary close!

    HereIsWisdom 1318HereIsWisdom 1318Månad sedan
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    Exhibit ProductionsExhibit ProductionsMånad sedan
  • I wish this guy would make more videos about past Pacers teams! Very good video!

    Stranger DangerStranger DangerMånad sedan
  • Collapse of SF Giants

    NewBro64NewBro64Månad sedan
  • So basically Hibbert's drastic decline and Lance's immaturity and insecurities coupled with Bird's old-school way of thinking in which players didn't dictate the direction of the team were their doom. They did good in getting Domantas and Oladipo on the PG deal, but now the LeVert signing seems like a bad move as well.

    Kinshasa PR.Kinshasa PR.Månad sedan
  • Should there be a collapse for the 2016 cleveland cavaliers? Genuinely interested to see how the video will look like

    Diego LofrancoDiego LofrancoMånad sedan
  • I miss this team low key! it was a dope team! use to love pg24 he was so good, now not so much lol

    Saquon#26Saquon#26Månad sedan
  • why is paul george always involved in chemistry issues...like on the pacers he wasn't the cause of anything but we're seeing the same chemistry issues on the clippers now lol

    ʕ•ᴥ•ʔʕ•ᴥ•ʔMånad sedan
  • trading away granger really killed their chemistry

    ʕ•ᴥ•ʔʕ•ᴥ•ʔMånad sedan
  • Injured or not, the Pacers weren’t getting past Miami’s Big 3.

    ElToro_Papi _ElToro_Papi _Månad sedan
  • on All The Smoke , PG said he was in talks with Anthony Davis and said that AD wanted to play in Indy, imagine thst

    FizzyBubbles74FizzyBubbles74Månad sedan
  • fun fact: vogel means bird in german

    Tomáš BačíkTomáš BačíkMånad sedan
  • Kids these days dont know how good pg was and also how he was a fan favorite because of how he cameback after breaking his leg. Its a damn shame

    General GrievousGeneral GrievousMånad sedan
  • So, a tomato ruined it? I see

    J.J JamesonJ.J JamesonMånad sedan
  • I remember this all happening was shocking to see

    liamdorliamdorMånad sedan
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    sara ferralsara ferralMånad sedan
  • 😔

    DripTeam EntDripTeam EntMånad sedan
  • PEEEERO ANTICCCCC

    DaveDaveMånad sedan
  • I sure do miss these pacers, the closest we ever got to winning a chip!

    Isaiah SullivanIsaiah SullivanMånad sedan
  • Who's here after the oladipo trade lololol

    The FusionThe FusionMånad sedan
  • Do the eagles

    Colin LucasColin LucasMånad sedan
  • Why the heck am I watching this video? Every second rips my heart out...

    Matt DavisMatt DavisMånad sedan
  • Can't wait for the Rockets Collapse video!

    Sangeethan MohanachandranSangeethan MohanachandranMånad sedan
  • They ruined it with one tiny cup.

    JoeCnNdJoeCnNdMånad sedan
  • They really made a 15 minute video lmaoo. Let me summarize it for y'all. Hibbert was a walking trash can during the 2014 playoffs and PG got injured. PG came back only to find out that the he and team ain't the same so he asked for a trade. 😂😭

    ACACMånad sedan
  • @sbnation u guys have to do the collapse of the broncos post manning. First team to ever miss the playoffs for 5 years after winning the super bowl

    Dirk DyksonDirk DyksonMånad sedan
  • Basketball Analytics really started around the 2013-2014 season, as they put certain cameras in the stadium to track players, their movements, shots, etc. Having a lineup where your Small Forward (Lance Stephenson), Power Forward (David West) and Center (Roy Hibbert) can't shoot, that is what killed them. I understand the chemistry argument, but once teams started stretching the floor, and then forcing the pacers to shoot long 2s, that's what killed them. IMO

    Justin HarnickJustin HarnickMånad sedan
  • Atlanta falcons would be a great Collapse video, even tho imma fan of them

    big baller brockbig baller brockMånad sedan
    • also would not be a bad idea to do player's career collapses like Johnny Footbal (Manziel)

      big baller brockbig baller brockMånad sedan
  • They weren’t wrong to move on from Roy Hibbert when they did. The modern nba game had passed him by

    Night HawkNight HawkMånad sedan
  • Should do one about sebation telfar

    Derrick NicholsDerrick NicholsMånad sedan
  • You gotta respect PERO

    Eu Vim de SantosEu Vim de SantosMånad sedan
  • As a Pacers fan watching this video it makes me sympathize with Paul George. At the time all of this happened I hated him for wanting to leave Indy, but seeing all of these boneheaded trades it seems he was justified.

    Aaron SlatonAaron SlatonMånad sedan
  • Vid idea: How the Jaguars went from super bowl contenders to the first overall pick.

    Pat JamesPat JamesMånad sedan
  • You should do the bulls with drose and them young bulls

    GG- MurderKingGG- MurderKingMånad sedan
  • Wayoff P is me in life.

    LoK 999LoK 999Månad sedan
  • Their brand of basketball just did not catch up with the league. Bird made some stupid trades even though he had the right mindset of playing faster.

    Justin LeeJustin LeeMånad sedan
  • Do a collapse on the 2017 Jags

    Conner LankfordConner LankfordMånad sedan
  • Pacers were overrated. Never had a chance. Do believe ANALysts!

    TY THE TRUTHTY THE TRUTHMånad sedan
  • I will never understand why we fired Vogel

    JuicyyJay24JuicyyJay24Månad sedan
  • Miss this team

    JuicyyJay24JuicyyJay24Månad sedan
  • pretty sure there's gonna be a collapse video in a couple of years on the warriors since the 2019 finals

    charles Stevenscharles StevensMånad sedan
  • Do NBA San Antonio Spurs Collapse 5 Championships 22-year Playoff streak

    George AladinGeorge AladinMånad sedan
  • They didn't have enough talent to beat Heat so Bird brings in clear upgrades and the team showed how soft they are.

    Vincent SalamatinoVincent SalamatinoMånad sedan
  • Do the Jaguars next, went from being terrible, then being a few plays away from the super bowl and then back to being terrible

    HH13HH132 månader sedan
  • how have you not made a buffalo bills collapse

    fofofk Bfofofk B2 månader sedan
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    Asa WalkerAsa Walker2 månader sedan
  • Of course the one time any major media outlet finally talks about the Pacers, and its about how good they used to be

    Cromartie McflyCromartie Mcfly2 månader sedan
  • god Monta Ellis should have stayed in Dallas

    Ethan ReedEthan Reed2 månader sedan
  • David West should be a GM one day. Looking at his entire career as well as the way he handles himself and his incredibly high basketball IQ, its clear he is easily capable of creating a championship roster that can become a dynasty without the "super team" excuse that has been given to the James-Heat squad and the Durant-Warriors squad (he could create the pre-Durant Warriors that had the entire NBA fanbase's respect because none of the big names were free agent signings).

    Matt DemartisMatt Demartis2 månader sedan
  • How is this video not called "How Larry Bird ruined the Pacers best chance for a championship"? As a GM you know chemistry and locker room influence is crucial to being successful and he gave it all away without talking to the guys who mattered most (many stars other than LeBron James have a voice in these talks). Bird inherited the core and then from the Granger trade to him stepping aside the Pacers fell hard (see graph in video) and the second he stepped away the next person made the right move and made them competitive almost instantly. Not to mention the horrendous handling of the public statements and unnecessary free agent signings that killed confidence (another crucial part of an athete performing that is well documented). Brutal.

    Matt DemartisMatt Demartis2 månader sedan
  • From 2012-2014 those Pacer teams were the real test for Miami's Big 3

    E ParkerE Parker2 månader sedan
  • As a pacers fan this is kills me slowly

    Rob DaughertyRob Daugherty2 månader sedan
  • "there's nothing unusual about successful attractive athletes doing a little modelling" *cough* *cough* kelly oubre jr

    Lachlan TointonLachlan Tointon2 månader sedan
  • 2017 Jacksonville Jaguars collapse

    Tim OkenfussTim Okenfuss2 månader sedan
  • With a healthy Granger they easily where champs

    isaiah alsupisaiah alsup2 månader sedan
  • 4:02 Granger was out of the league within 2 years. If trading him for somebody who might be able to actually play broke their will, then these guys weren't mentally tough enough to win anything anyway. Truth is, the Derrick Rose injury derailed the Bulls and moved the Pacers up in the eastern food chain briefly until Paul George had a freak injury himself.

    75 aces75 aces2 månader sedan
  • Pero Antic is the goat. Don’t disrespect him like that 😤

    Woke StarWoke Star2 månader sedan
  • Pacers kinda won that trade at the end tho

    hit_stiq79hit_stiq792 månader sedan
  • How about 2006 Bears for Collapse? Devin Hester returning that opening kickoff was their peak!

    Joey DJoey D2 månader sedan
  • Nah. Hibbert was exposed by 3 point ball. The game changed right in front of him. Lance was never that good and was more of a troll tbh. Bird did a great job turning them into a contender, it was the players who failed.

    Martin BlakeMartin Blake2 månader sedan
    • Hibbert was the darnedest thing. Before him, I'd seen guys fall fast because of injury or cocaine or eating their way out of the league, but I'd never seen a player just become obsolete overnight like that. Like the game changed right out from under him.

      75 aces75 aces2 månader sedan
  • Imagine they are going to do an episode for the rockets in three years

    Anthony McArthurAnthony McArthur2 månader sedan
  • Pacers didn't ruin anything. Paul George snapped his shin in half playing in a USA basketball game. That's how it was all ruined, also the verticality rule essentially killed Hibbert's defense.

    Michael JungMichael Jung2 månader sedan
  • This dude acts like we werent there alive in 2014

    Original LOriginal L2 månader sedan
  • Might not qualify but can you make one for the Marvin Lewis Bengals

    Alex PartykaAlex Partyka2 månader sedan
  • The uppity paint subsequently melt because vacation summatively destroy along a tart shark. learned, colorful home

    Ryd ScheerRyd Scheer2 månader sedan
  • And now Frank just won a championship with LeBron.

    Jarad WinklepleckJarad Winklepleck2 månader sedan
  • If Danny Granger never got hurt they could’ve beaten the heat for sure. But then Paul George might not have developed as quickly as he did.

    ThatsaSlumperThatsaSlumper2 månader sedan
    • And if Andrew Bynum cared about basketball they would’ve only been that much deeper

      ThatsaSlumperThatsaSlumper2 månader sedan
  • can you please do a collapse on the Giants since the boat picture

    Ben GilgBen Gilg2 månader sedan
  • SOOOO CLOSE TO A MILLION SUBS! (I honestly cant believe its even taken this long! Especially as awesome as this channel is!)

    Walter WhiteWalter White2 månader sedan
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